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Author:  Blackhawk [ Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:37 pm ]
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I got to visit the Summer Palace on the outskirts of Beijing. Here are two bridges:

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Did I mention there are bridges in the Summer Palace?

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And with so many bridges, there is obviously a lake, too.
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a banyan tree that is considered holy by the local Buddhists in Honk Kong:
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whistling on Suzhou Street, also in the SP:
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this elderly man was doing calligraphy, and was none too happy having his pic taken. a tenth of a second after I took this, he held up his hands in front of his face, saying "No!" so I apologized...and walked away with his pic. very colorful guy:
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Author:  khl [ Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:59 pm ]
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I am officially jealous. Nice pictures.

Author:  TheSpoonMan [ Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:09 pm ]
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khl wrote:
I am officially jealous. Nice pictures.


What he said! Awesome!

Author:  Adrian [ Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:21 pm ]
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TheSpoonMan wrote:
khl wrote:
I am officially jealous. Nice pictures.


What he said! Awesome!


Here here!

Looks like you had loads of fun.

Author:  foothillsOH [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:07 am ]
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Great Pics!

I am soooooooooo glad you made it home safely!

I am sure you have more pics to share! :D
Peace

Author:  Judy K [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:19 pm ]
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Great pictures!

.... and ready for the next batch, now .... 8)

Author:  kelly [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:29 pm ]
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Great pictures, thanks!
But am I the only one here who doesn't recognize your whistle?

Author:  Blackhawk [ Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:47 pm ]
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kelly wrote:
Great pictures, thanks!
But am I the only one here who doesn't recognize your whistle?
It's my Humphrey B nat, Kelly. I had the Syn C, of course, but I was giving the Humphrey some air time. :)

Author:  kelly [ Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:20 pm ]
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Cool!
I know they'll only take your Syn C when they pry your cold dead fingers from around it!

Author:  Jim Wright [ Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:16 pm ]
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Just getting a chance to look around .... again .... missed this .. guess you went "sightseeing" again ... lol

Glad you made it home safely ... you working your gardian angels overtime!!!

Great pictures

Author:  Revles [ Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:47 am ]
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thought you might at least have put on a chinese mandarins hat to play the whistle........a peaked cap.how could you.really great pics though...what a wonderful trip...Les.

Author:  Blackhawk [ Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:51 pm ]
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Jim Wright wrote:

Glad you made it home safely ... you working your gardian angels overtime!!!
Yep, they defiinitely got their overtime in on this trip. Sightseeing can be a great ministry, properly done. :mrgreen:

Author:  Blackhawk [ Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:51 pm ]
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Revles wrote:
thought you might at least have put on a chinese mandarins hat to play the whistle........a peaked cap.how could you.really great pics though...what a wonderful trip...Les.
thank you, Les. :)

Author:  Blackhawk [ Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:53 pm ]
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foothillsOH wrote:
Great Pics!

I am soooooooooo glad you made it home safely!

I am sure you have more pics to share! :D
Peace
Thank you, Laura. There are more pix here:
http://www.setbb.com/praiseforall/viewt ... aiseforall

Author:  Adrian [ Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:24 pm ]
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Blackhawk wrote:
this elderly man was doing calligraphy, and was none too happy having his pic taken. a tenth of a second after I took this, he held up his hands in front of his face, saying "No!" so I apologized...and walked away with his pic. very colorful guy:
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I like this pic. My policy is also to take pictures first and ask questions later.

Author:  Jim Wright [ Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:35 pm ]
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Adrian wrote:
Blackhawk wrote:
this elderly man was doing calligraphy, and was none too happy having his pic taken. a tenth of a second after I took this, he held up his hands in front of his face, saying "No!" so I apologized...and walked away with his pic. very colorful guy:
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I like this pic. My policy is also to take pictures first and ask questions later.


We had our first prosecution for taking someones pictures with a cell phone .... believe the owner of the phone lost the case but not sure. It was up in the Dallas areal If it happend down here .. they would have just taken care of the owner of the phone ... persuaded him that it was a bad idea to take pictures of that nature.

I don't shoot as many pictures of people as I use to take in my younger days.

Author:  Adrian [ Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:48 pm ]
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Jim Wright wrote:
Adrian wrote:
Blackhawk wrote:
this elderly man was doing calligraphy, and was none too happy having his pic taken. a tenth of a second after I took this, he held up his hands in front of his face, saying "No!" so I apologized...and walked away with his pic. very colorful guy:
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I like this pic. My policy is also to take pictures first and ask questions later.


We had our first prosecution for taking someones pictures with a cell phone .... believe the owner of the phone lost the case but not sure. It was up in the Dallas areal If it happend down here .. they would have just taken care of the owner of the phone ... persuaded him that it was a bad idea to take pictures of that nature.

I don't shoot as many pictures of people as I use to take in my younger days.


I find it is much better to take the shot and talk to the person afterwards both because they may say no and also because I don't always want posed shots. Don't try this in France though as it has extreme privacy laws!

Author:  Adrian [ Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:48 pm ]
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Darvis

Will you return to China again?

Author:  Walden [ Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:12 pm ]
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Revles wrote:
a peaked cap.how could you.

It was a baseball cap?

Author:  Adrian [ Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:27 pm ]
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Blackhawk wrote:
this elderly man was doing calligraphy, and was none too happy having his pic taken. a tenth of a second after I took this, he held up his hands in front of his face, saying "No!" so I apologized...and walked away with his pic. very colorful guy:
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Elderly? A mere whippersnapper to Jim and Les!

Author:  Blackhawk [ Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:29 am ]
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Adrian wrote:
Darvis

Will you return to China again?
I hope to, Adrian, but things are getting very tight over there. The Chinese gov't is really cracking down on foreigners, worried about an influx of Christians during the Olympic time. I think after the Olympics are over, they may get even tighter as far as who they allow in, visa-wise. Given the opportunity, I'd like to go back every year, but that may not be realistic.

Author:  Adrian [ Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:53 am ]
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Blackhawk wrote:
Adrian wrote:
Darvis

Will you return to China again?
I hope to, Adrian, but things are getting very tight over there. The Chinese gov't is really cracking down on foreigners, worried about an influx of Christians during the Olympic time. I think after the Olympics are over, they may get even tighter as far as who they allow in, visa-wise. Given the opportunity, I'd like to go back every year, but that may not be realistic.


This is interesting. There was an edition of Time or Newsweek a year or so ago that said that based on current trends ( at that time) China was predicted to become the most Christian country on earth. I think this was based on the fact that in 50 years numbers of protestants have grown from 700,000 to more than 35,000,000. Wow! May the revival continue.

I pray for persecuted Christians but not that persecution would stop as that often produces fertile ground for the gospel.

I'm surprised that the government is restricting visitors as I would have thought tourists would bring in the moolar.

I hope the doors remain open for you to return. Well done for going.

Author:  Adrian [ Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:32 am ]
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Yikes!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3993857.stm

Author:  Blackhawk [ Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:25 am ]
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Adrian wrote:
Blackhawk wrote:
Adrian wrote:
Darvis

Will you return to China again?
I hope to, Adrian, but things are getting very tight over there. The Chinese gov't is really cracking down on foreigners, worried about an influx of Christians during the Olympic time. I think after the Olympics are over, they may get even tighter as far as who they allow in, visa-wise. Given the opportunity, I'd like to go back every year, but that may not be realistic.


This is interesting. There was an edition of Time or Newsweek a year or so ago that said that based on current trends ( at that time) China was predicted to become the most Christian country on earth. I think this was based on the fact that in 50 years numbers of protestants have grown from 700,000 to more than 35,000,000. Wow! May the revival continue.
I've actually heard much larger numbers. When I was there in April the accepted number of Christians was 100 million and a few months later I saw the figure of 130 million. I doubt anyone truly knows except for God, but I do believe China has more true Christians than the US does. The sharper the persecution, the faster the number of Christians rises

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I pray for persecuted Christians but not that persecution would stop as that often produces fertile ground for the gospel.
Oh, absolutely! The Chinese don't pray for the persecution to end. They know God uses it to make them strong. Is it any wonder I love those people so much!

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I'm surprised that the government is restricting visitors as I would have thought tourists would bring in the moolar.
Oh, they want people, they just don't want Christians coming in to stir up the locals, which is already happening. I have some life long friends who have sent their son over there already, doing "graduate work" in China, through a very well known Christian organization that you'd recognize if I wrote it here. They are inundating China with young Christian men and women in the universities right now. So far their son has won 3 of the Chinese college students to the Lord. So far also, he has gotten the contact info for 100 other college kids who want to get to know him (he's a celebrity on campus because he's American), and half of those have said they'd be interested to hear about Jesus. The people there are starving for God.

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I hope the doors remain open for you to return. Well done for going.
:mrgreen: Thank you, Adrian, I hope for continuing open doors, too.

Author:  Blackhawk [ Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:37 am ]
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Adrian wrote:
Yes, this is classic. The two best known pastors in Beijing were arrested (for the umpteenth time) last November. In January rumors began circulating that they had been executed. The weekend that I arrived in April, we found out the rumors were true. The gov't finally lost their temper and just had them shot.

That same weekend, a group known as Life Couriers was wiped out in Beijing. They were a hard core organization of Bible smugglers that had been in operation for many, many years. That weekend, the top 3 (non-Chinese, but I don't know for sure what nationality they were) were arrested, interrogated at length, then deported. The next layer below them were all Chinese so they were arrested and imprisoned. They will be in prison for many years to come, if they get out at all. Some will no doubt die in prison. I pray for them often, and for their families.

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