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Author:  shadoes [ Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:42 pm ]
Post subject:  If you don't like Audacity

I stumbled across this tonight. Also free

http://www.wavosaur.com/

Author:  khl [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:27 am ]
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Thanks. I've downloaded and will have to give it a try.

Author:  Adrian [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:28 am ]
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khl wrote:
Thanks. I've downloaded and will have to give it a try.


Waiting for your review and how it compares with Audacity.

Author:  shadoes [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:36 am ]
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From what it looks like it is a bit more powerful but I haven't had a chance to try it just yet myself

Author:  Susi [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:58 am ]
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It looks good, but it seems you can't save as mp3.

Author:  Adrian [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:31 am ]
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zoukie wrote:
It looks good, but it seems you can't save as mp3.


Means I should not bother with it then?

Author:  shadoes [ Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:53 am ]
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So save it as a wav and convert to mp3? When I work with sample files I don't save as mp3 anyway I save as an uncompressed wav file. It is only later that the final gets compressed to mp3

Author:  Susi [ Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:42 am ]
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Adrian wrote:
zoukie wrote:
It looks good, but it seems you can't save as mp3.


Means I should not bother with it then?


If it's a good software you definitely should bother. There are good wav/mp3 converters out there for free. I'll try this software because I have some issues with audacity when I make multi-track recordings.

Author:  ConnieS [ Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:09 am ]
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Played with it just a tad today. I haven't multi-tracked yet, but it has a very nice VST rack interface. (Don't glaze over yet, Adrian.) Editing is really simple, at least what I've tried. the only thing is, I can't figure out from the manual how many undos you get. I want infinite! Plus, the undos don't work at all on VST tasks.

I'll keep at it.

Author:  Judy K [ Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:20 am ]
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With Audacity we had to download an mp3 converter, didn't we? A LAME MP3 encoder, or something like that? Would the same encoder work with this program?

Author:  Adrian [ Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:12 pm ]
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Judy K wrote:
With Audacity we had to download an mp3 converter, didn't we? A LAME MP3 encoder, or something like that? Would the same encoder work with this program?


Duh! Of course we did. So, what free mp3 converter can people recomend me?

Author:  shadoes [ Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:29 pm ]
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LAME has a stand alone front end out there that will let input your wavs. I haven;t used it in a while but I had it at one point. google LAME Front End and see what comes up.

Author:  Judy K [ Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:56 pm ]
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The one I used for Audacity came from a link on Whistle This! "How to Record" page .... which leads right back to the Audacity's website FAQ on how to download & install. Maybe it would work with the other program ... maybe not. :?

Author:  Susi [ Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:18 am ]
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Wow, you guys use words that are like Greek to me!! VST rack, what's that? I just record, edit and save the file.
dB Power Amp has a good mp3 encoder, that I've always used, but it seems it's a pay program now. It used to be free. I'm not sure what to use now. I guess you could do a search on download.com.

Author:  Susi [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:52 am ]
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I was wrong!!!!
When you've recorded something, go to FILE and then export, and choose as mp3, and you don't need to convert anything. Great stuff!! So now this software is definitely worth exploring!

Author:  KittyR [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:38 am ]
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They have a user forum over there just like this one where you can ask questions and get advice.

http://www.wavosaur.com/forum/

(so does Audacity, for that matter)

Author:  ConnieS [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:13 pm ]
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This is turning out to be a pretty nice piece of software. Editing is way easier on this than with Audacity. I've always wanted to be able to zoom in using arrow keys on Audacity, and sure enough, there it is on Wavosaur. They just seem to be paying more attention to how the pricey sound editors are doing it, and emulating the better ones. Pretty slick! :D

I still haven't done any multitracking with it.

VSTs are special effects that you can apply to your recordings. I learned about them because Audacity offers the ability to plug them into the Audacity software, and even sends you to links where you can download them. So I happen to have a bunch of them laying around in my computer.

So Wavosaur not only lets you use them, but they offer a "rack" format for using them, meaning you can "stack" them one on top of the other. Let's say I want to add echo to my whistle. I can do that. Now do I want to make my whistle sound like a distorted electric guitar? If I have the right VST, I can do that. "Oh, wait," I think. "Do I want to distort the echo too?" No? Then the distorted guitar VST will be at the top of the rack, and I can apply the echo underneath. So I apply the echo to the distorted pennywhistle, instead of applying distortion to the echoey pennywhistle.

The "rack" idea, I think, must be based on the way electric guitarists line their pedals up and plug them into each other, one after the other, carefully considering how they want their effects to affect each other. Then they plug into amps, eq consoles and modellers stacked one on top of the other. A "rack." And if you are ever on a guitar forum, you will hear no end of talk about which piece of equipment should come first, second or third in the order. :roll:

Thanks for the forum link, Kitty.

Author:  shadoes [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:27 pm ]
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hehe gee Connie next you will start talking about 'sidechaining' effects :) I say this stuff just to get the vision of Adrian's eyes rolling back in his head :roll: :mrgreen:

Author:  Judy K [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:05 pm ]
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Not only Adrian .... :roll:

I can read Connie's words ... understand them, no! :shock: :?

Simple is good.

:)

Author:  shadoes [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:17 pm ]
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We haven't even gotten to the VSTi discussion yet :) VST are effects.. VSTi's are virtual instruments(i use these a LOT)

Author:  ConnieS [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:29 pm ]
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Fortunately, you don't have to use VSTs or effects at all to use this program.

Author:  Judy K [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:48 pm ]
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:-k I think you two really enjoy messing with our heads. :lol:

As long as the great music keeps coming, I'm not going to complain. Don't have to understand it to enjoy it. 8)

Author:  ConnieS [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:04 pm ]
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You don't have to know anything about them or use them at all. You already produce pretty music.

I'll just say this: You know how you add that nice echo to your project, then make it louder? Well, with this Wavosaur, you can add the echo and make it louder at the same time.

Author:  Adrian [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:16 pm ]
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Judy K wrote:
:-k I think you two really enjoy messing with our heads. :lol:


I agree. It's way beyond me.

Author:  shadoes [ Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:17 pm ]
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yea the rack effects feature is nice. Since I use traktion to record I can chain pretty much as many effects as I need.

hehe at the moment I use a lot of stuff but at some point I expect I will meander back to a minimalist set up for a while.

VST are nice but as has been said not needed.

With that being said for a set of basic VST effects you can check these out..I use these a lot myself.

http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/download.php

scroll down the page to the second section where it says Free Plugins. For basic effects you will be hard pressed to find something better for free and even find it difficult to find some better when you pay for them.

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