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 Post subject: Song 8 - Come Thou Fount of Every Blessing
PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:20 pm 
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Little bit faster this time. :)

http://praisewhistlers.org/exchange/son ... uFount.pdf

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Sounds like a good one. 8)

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A question about the lyrics, too:

What on earth is an "Ebenezer" (besides Scrooge's first name)? :?

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This is actually a great story.

Ebenezer literally means "stone of help."

It comes from 1 Samuel 7.

Samuel sets up a stone (which was alwaysa significant act to them) and named it Ebenezer, saying "the LORD has helped me (brought me) this far."

We also have times of declaring, the Lord has brought me this far, so this is where we "raise our Ebenezer." :)

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This is one I like and know. I haven't played it for a while. It is the first hymn that I memorized all the verses. That was about spring of 1969.

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KittyR wrote:
This is actually a great story.

Ebenezer literally means "stone of help."

It comes from 1 Samuel 7.

Samuel sets up a stone (which was alwaysa significant act to them) and named it Ebenezer, saying "the LORD has helped me (brought me) this far."

We also have times of declaring, the Lord has brought me this far, so this is where we "raise our Ebenezer." :)

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Thanks! 8)

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Here's the first clip on this one, from Jim Wright:

"Used the Eb Gen that Tommy tweaked"

http://praisewhistlers.org/exchange/son ... Wright.mp3

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So shadoes, you ready to take over The Praise Exchange again? I got a contest to run! :)

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Thats real nice Jim. Each one gets better. I like an Eb whistle myself. I have one made by Gary Humphrey that is very nice and a couple of Gens that sound great when I play them right.

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Thanks Ron ... I like that song .. problem is that once I play it .. it sticks with me and find my self humming or whistling it for a long time. I guess it could be worse. I sure do like The Eb .. not sure what it is about it .. just seems bright sounding or something.

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KittyR wrote:
So shadoes, you ready to take over The Praise Exchange again? I got a contest to run! :)


Yes please start sending your PMs back to me folks.


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Very nice, Jim. I'm liking those cuts you used. It adds some polish. Keep it up! The reverb level is quite a bit better, too. Also adds polish. :D Altogether a nice, more polished, "spitshined" piece of work you got there!!

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Yeah, Jim, this is nice. You're improving and gaining confidence. Nice tone, I thought.

You have a much better signal on this one too. What did you change?

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Just turned mine in. Got a little surprise for you:

NO WHISTLE! ;)

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You sure you're on the right forum, puppy-boy?

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KittyR wrote:
Yeah, Jim, this is nice. You're improving and gaining confidence. Nice tone, I thought.

You have a much better signal on this one too. What did you change?

Kitty

Thank you very much .. moved the mike closer ..as clipped to my shirt collar .. and backed off the reverb. Seems like you .. Connie and Josh thought it might help and I noticed that the signal was up as well. When you don't know what you are doing ... you are just doing the best you can. When you find out a little thing like that can improve things .. wow .. big ... big tip.

So .. what is the next song LOL .... this is fun!! (ducking .. bobbing and weaving and avoiding Shadrack) :laughing:

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Here is RenTin's
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This is an all-mountain-dulcimer rendition of the tune.

Details:

Dulcimer used - McSpadden FH12WW

Mic used - Radio Shack battery-operated

Mic placement - inside upper far-side soundhole of dulcimer

Tuning - DAd, 3 strings only

Playing method - fingerpicked chord/melody

Recording method - Recorded entire piece on one mono track, normalized it, copied it to a new track, delayed new track slightly, panned original track 40 clicks left and new track 40 clicks right.



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RT10, no whistle? :shock: Is that allowed?

Seriously, the dulcimer is great! Glad your hand has recovered enough to play the MD. This is so peaceful! :thumbsup:

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Recording method - Recorded entire piece on one mono track, normalized it, copied it to a new track, delayed new track slightly, panned original track 40 clicks left and new track 40 clicks right


:?: Okay ... could you break this down into "recording for dummys 101" english, please. I understand the recording & normalizing -- the how & why of the delaying and panning is greek/bumfoozling ... :? :-k


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Jim W. -- Very cool! That sounds soooo nice! :sunny2:

What a difference moving the microphone made. I hear none of the background noise now ... gonna miss the clocks, though. 8)

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Liked the dulicimer .. can see an old mountian church .... and sleepy times.

Judy .. if you understood any of that recording stuff that was posted .. you are light years ahead of me!!! I just got the part down where you have to push the "red" record button at the same time you push play! :shock: :D

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Ren Tin 10,

Nice!!! Glad that one slipped in under the radar. Didn't know you were such a rebel! What a nice, peaceful piece.

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Judy K wrote:
I understand the recording & normalizing -- the how & why of the delaying and panning is greek/bumfoozling ...

Judy, I think we have Recording 101 done and I'll start a thread on that soon.

Currently working on a follow-up to discuss things like panning.

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Judy K wrote:
RT10, no whistle? :shock: Is that allowed?

Seriously, the dulcimer is great! Glad your hand has recovered enough to play the MD. This is so peaceful! :thumbsup:

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Recording method - Recorded entire piece on one mono track, normalized it, copied it to a new track, delayed new track slightly, panned original track 40 clicks left and new track 40 clicks right


:?: Okay ... could you break this down into "recording for dummys 101" english, please. I understand the recording & normalizing -- the how & why of the delaying and panning is greek/bumfoozling ... :? :-k


here is the most plain exaplanation of panning I can give. Record your track to say track one. Copy and paste that track to track 2 so you have the same sound file on two different tracks. Then somewhere, its different for every program, there should be a panning option. On some programs it is a nob on some a slider. On mine it is a slider. The default is set to 0 which means the sound comes equally out of both stereo channels. hmmm.. okay back up a sec. first understand that a stereo signal has a left and a right channel. A mono signal has only one so the sound is equal out of both sides. .. okay back to our program...

Moving the panning option to the negative side typically shifts the sound so that it is more to the left channel positive to the right. So for example if I shift track one 40 clicks to the negative then more of that track will sound in the left channel than the right. Test this by slapping on a pair of stereo headphones and mutting all the other tracks. You will hear your track one stronger on the left side. Then pan track two 40 clicks to the right thereby pushing more of it to the right side.

What this does in essence is to enhance the stereo effect. Some folks will then pop just a hair of digital delay onto one channel but that is another topic. Again this just enhances the stereo effect. You have to be careful with delay though cause it can get off and sound either really neat or really horid :)

Clear as mud?


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Thanks, shadoes, for the info. :)

Hmmm ... okay, I can make the copy of the same track. But I don't understand where on Audacity the 'slider' is. I will, however, wait patiencely for Recording 102. Boy, this stuff is getting to the point where I'm going to have to do some studying. :shock: ACK!


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here is the most plain exaplanation of panning I can give. Record your track to say track one. Copy and paste that track to track 2 so you have the same sound file on two different tracks. Then somewhere, its different for every program, there should be a panning option. On some programs it is a nob on some a slider. On mine it is a slider. The default is set to 0 which means the sound comes equally out of both stereo channels. hmmm.. okay back up a sec. first understand that a stereo signal has a left and a right channel. A mono signal has only one so the sound is equal out of both sides. .. okay back to our program...

Moving the panning option to the negative side typically shifts the sound so that it is more to the left channel positive to the right. So for example if I shift track one 40 clicks to the negative then more of that track will sound in the left channel than the right. Test this by slapping on a pair of stereo headphones and mutting all the other tracks. You will hear your track one stronger on the left side. Then pan track two 40 clicks to the right thereby pushing more of it to the right side.


Adobe Audition and Cool Edit give you the option to change the pan settings along the track and get some neat effects, but I usually just pan the entire track.

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What this does in essence is to enhance the stereo effect. Some folks will then pop just a hair of digital delay onto one channel but that is another topic. Again this just enhances the stereo effect. You have to be careful with delay though cause it can get off and sound either really neat or really horid :)

Clear as mud?


What I usually do is zoom in really close, then drag one of the tracks slightly away from the starting point. If you drag it just a tiny bit, the result will be a "fatter" sound. If you drag it a little more, it sounds like you're in a large, empty auditorium. If you drag it even a little more than that, parts of your track will disappear. :shock:

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