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 Post subject: Song 14 - There Is A Fountain
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 9:44 am 
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A new hymn for ya! This one is based on a traditional American folk melody. I hope you folks across the pond enjoy it. Many of our early tunes have that Renaissance era folk sound. This one can be very emotional.

The pdf:
http://praisewhistlers.org/exchange/son ... in_pdf.pdf


The midi:
http://praisewhistlers.org/exchange/son ... n_midi.mp3

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So, no sharps or flats?


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There should be a transposition for it (the midi) somewhere, but pdf files can't be transposed AFAIK unless someone creates another pdf.

Anyone have an abc for it? I have the tools for that.

BTW, I need the dots (and chords) for "How Beautiful Heaven Must Be" in the key of F for some people I play with who can't do it by ear :roll:


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Sorry, I forgot to transpose after I copied from the hymnal. I'll have it in D by Friday AM. :oops:

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ConnieS wrote:
Sorry, I forgot to transpose after I copied from the hymnal. I'll have it in D by Friday AM. :oops:
No need for :oops: Connie. Thank you for all you do for us here. :)


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Try again. Files are replaced.

Thanks for the grace. :D Graduation is tonight and I'm currently busier than a fiddler with fleas.

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Try again. Files are replaced.

Thanks for the grace. :D Graduation is tonight and I'm currently busier than a fiddler with fleas.


My My .... now that would be a busy person .. but am thinking his music would be just a touch more lively! :D

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hey can you send me the actuall midi file for this? Not an mp3 of the mid but the actual .mid?


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Played it through a couple of times and it sounded quite plain and uninteresting until I tried playing it more like an air and then it came alive. Nice tune but new to me. I'd like to hear a whistle version from Kieth.


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Played it through a couple of times and it sounded quite plain and uninteresting until I tried playing it more like an air and then it came alive. Nice tune but new to me. I'd like to hear a whistle version from Kieth.
Me? :o This is one (as with 'O the Deep, Deep Love') I've never sung before and can't really say I've heard it before either. I've seen the title in various hymn books, but it's unfamiliar to me. Still, I am going to try it sometime, though I can't say how soon. I think your idea of a slow air sounds interesting, though I'm thinking 'light' as far as the whistle goes -- maybe one of the cheapies that isn't real loud. We'll see.

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I have never heard of this one either. I have downloaded the files but I don't know how long it will take me to record a version I would share.

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Adrian wrote:
Played it through a couple of times and it sounded quite plain and uninteresting until I tried playing it more like an air and then it came alive. Nice tune but new to me. I'd like to hear a whistle version from Kieth.


Look out on the upload site. ;)

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this is an old baptist standard. So it is one I have grown up on. And heard played at every tempo hehe. gee should I do a 130 BPM Trance version?


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gee should I do a 130 BPM Trance version?


\:D/ \:D/ \:D/

Don't see why not. After all, remember the password to the upload site. ;)

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Selah has a nice version of the song, and so does 4Him. You might try downloading an mp3 from either group from Walmart.com or iTunes. I'll have to record this one for you. As with much early American, it's the harmony that really makes it come alive.

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shadoes wrote:
hey can you send me the actuall midi file for this? Not an mp3 of the mid but the actual .mid?


Shadoes, I'm not sure how to get Finale to save me a midi, but here's a page with a download link for a plain 4 part harmony midi.

http://www.hymnsite.com/lyrics/umh622.sht

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We're starting things off with khl:

http://praisewhistlers.org/exchange/son ... in_khl.mp3

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This one is played on a Generation Brass D.

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And here's Rentin10's copy.

http://praisewhistlers.org/exchange/son ... ntin10.mp3


And he says:
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Instruments used: Mountain Dulcimer, Organ

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Keith, nice! Some really slick ornaments in the second time through. :D

I am curious as to why you picked a Generation for the tune, given your collection.

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Ren, nifty! Had to put on earphones to detect the organ though. (Stupid laptop speakers!) I really like the picking pattern/rhythm you use on the chords ... soothing. I gotta learn how you do that .... 8)


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Judy K wrote:
Keith, nice! Some really slick ornaments in the second time through. :D


Ditto! 8)

Judy K wrote:
I am curious as to why you picked a Generation for the tune, given your collection.


IMO, this tune practically begs for a Gen. :mrgreen:

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Ren, nifty! Had to put on earphones to detect the organ though. (Stupid laptop speakers!)


I tried to put just a hint of organ in the second verse, so I probably had it turned down too low. I keep forgetting that not everyone is listening on desktop speakers. :roll:

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I really like the picking pattern/rhythm you use on the chords ... soothing. I gotta learn how you do that .... 8)


Thanks! 8)

OK, I'll tell you. First of all, I tune the dulcimer D-A-d, I only have 3 strings, and I don't have nails on either hand (I guess I'm sort of the "Anti-Dolly-Parton"). ;) I set the dulcimer on a small folding table and drop a small mic into one of the sound holes.

To do the fingerpicking pattern, I put the heel of my picking hand on the bridge, position my thumb on the high string, my index finger on the middle string, and my middle finger on the low string. If the beat is in twos, like this tune, I pick T-I-M-I-T-I-M-I. If it is in threes, I usually pick T-I-M-T-I-M. I recorded the melody line separately using a medium-weight guitar pick, my old standby red Snarling Dog Brain Pick. :mrgreen:

OK, the chords:

D = all open
G = 3-1-0
A = 1-0-1

Hopefully this helps.

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That is delightful! Excellent choice of whistle as well. I feel inspired to learn it tonight. :thumbsup:

Well done for not over-ornamenting it. I thought you chose a perfect balance.


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I liked both of these a lot ... you both played it like I have sung it all my life .... very nice .. :D

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Ren-Tin-10 wrote:
If the beat is in twos, like this tune, I pick T-I-M-I-T-I-M-I. If it is in threes, I usually pick T-I-M-T-I-M.


Aaahhhhhh! That's what I thought I heard, but wasn't sure. My ears are still new at this dulcimer stuff. Thank you very much for the tutorial, kind sir! :D

My Snarling Dog Brain Pick is purple 60mm and my second favorite -- first is a yellow Wedgie delrin, 73mm. There is an interesting pick called an Alaskan pick, works just like fingernails, even slips under the edge of your own. Have you tried those?


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Thanks for the comments, all. I think I chose the Generation whistle in part because lately I've been playing it (and hearing some traditional sounding whistle on a CD or two) and saying to myself: This isn't a bad little whistle. And much the same could be said about many of the other low cost whistles. They aren't my best or most favorite, but I still like them very much and wouldn't want to be without them.

With this song, I wanted something light and somewhat more traditional--something that sort of bounced with energy and exuberance. That's the best way I can describe it. The easy way to put it is simply to say I thought this would be fun/interesting on a Generation.

Can't wait to hear the rest of you.

P.S.: So about these dulcimers . . . Not that I have time or inclination now, but in a couple years . . . . :-k

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Keith--I like the trad fast sound you went for. And I add my vote to the ornaments on the last verse. Nicely done. Made me wanna skip.

Ren--I like the way the organ blended into that supporting role. Very understated and classy. Added a nice artistic tension to the rough-and-tumble of what a dulcimer is. I very much enjoyed the sound of it.


I have every intention of recording this one. In fact, Whistlenut and I are playing it in church Sunday.

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