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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:28 pm 
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What key of whistle is the best to use when you want to play in the key of A, if you want to avoid half-holing?


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An A whistle. :mrgreen: Or an E whistle.

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An A whistle. The key of A is possibly one of the nicest of all whistle keys and the A whistle is a great alternative for playing tunes in the key of D without half holing.

Chieftain A is one of my favorites.

A major is very easy to play on a D whistle, depending on the tune range of course. It only requires half holing the G which is one of the easiest notes to half hole. A harmonic minor is even easier on a D whistle as it needs no half holes but just the C nat 0XX000.

As Connie said (and she is the expert) you could use an E whistle, but that would not be my first choice.


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I have a Dixon Mezzo A whistle --- one of my favorites. I usually take the easy route and use "needing a different key" for getting a new whistle and not mess with any mental transcribing. :D


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That sounds like a very good idea to me..... :D


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To be contrarian, I prefer to play A on an E whistle, especially a low E. The only half-holing required is to make a D natural out of the D#, which requires half-holing the first hole left (or upper) hand. I frequently like to drop a fifth below the tonic, and this allows for that. It would be a little difficult if I wanted to play A major with an occasional flatted seventh, though.


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jimwasson wrote:
It would be a little difficult if I wanted to play A major with an occasional flatted seventh, though.


Why? Because you have to half hole the G? :?


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I'm doing well to get a clear note half-holing the minor seventh to the tonic key on a whistle. To half-hole to get a G on an E whistle - the note is just not at all clear when I play it. Also, on most of the whistles I play, the 5th hole is quite small, rendering it even more difficult.

Of course, all of this could likely be remedied if a little more time was spent in practicing...


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jimwasson wrote:
I'm doing well to get a clear note half-holing the minor seventh to the tonic key on a whistle....
I'd be doing well to understand half those words, in a music context. :shock:

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Blackhawk wrote:
jimwasson wrote:
I'm doing well to get a clear note half-holing the minor seventh to the tonic key on a whistle....
I'd be doing well to understand half those words, in a music context. :shock:



You'll be pleased to know that very soon a music theory workshop will be run in our very own PWA! The above terms will probably be covered very early on, I'm guessing, when we learn about scales and intervals. Do join in and all will be explained.

Look at the worshop forum and you can see the name of the textbook Shadoes has chosen for us to work through. :D


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Adrian wrote:
Blackhawk wrote:
jimwasson wrote:
I'm doing well to get a clear note half-holing the minor seventh to the tonic key on a whistle....
I'd be doing well to understand half those words, in a music context. :shock:



You'll be pleased to know that very soon a music theory workshop will be run in our very own PWA! The above terms will probably be covered very early on, I'm guessing, when we learn about scales and intervals. Do join in and all will be explained.

Look at the worshop forum and you can see the name of the textbook Shadoes has chosen for us to work through. :D
I'm looking forward to trying to understand it all. Years ago I bought Music theory for dummies, but I couldn't even understand the first couple of chapters. :oops:

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Half-holing sounds "dirtier" on some whistles and cleaner on others. You just have to try the whistles you have.

Why would you want to half-hole the seventh when you could just cross-finger it? I never understood that. If someone has insight, I'd love to know.

I sometimes like to flatten the sixth, which means half-holing your fifth hole, but that's only when playing blues, and then you can slide into and out of it, meaning you just stop when it sounds right. Kind of the cheater's half-holing. I've used it for other half-holing needs, too, but it lends itself really nicely to blues, where all sorts of sliding around is heartily accepted.

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ConnieS wrote:
Why would you want to half-hole the seventh when you could just cross-finger it? I never understood that. If someone has insight, I'd love to know.


How would you cross finger a flattened 7th in the second octave?


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I wouldn't. With permanent tinnitis, I don't play any whistle that high. Granted, I don't have any whistle lower than a mezzo G....

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ConnieS wrote:
I wouldn't. With permanent tinnitis, I don't play any whistle that high. Granted, I don't have any whistle lower than a mezzo G....


Ouch! I'm very sorry for you. Anyway, that's one reason for half holing the flattened 7th even if you cross finger in the first octave. The other main reason is for sliding in and out of the note. It is very easy to half hole this note as you just roll the whistle between finger and thumb.


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Adrian wrote:
ConnieS wrote:
I wouldn't. With permanent tinnitis, I don't play any whistle that high. Granted, I don't have any whistle lower than a mezzo G....


Ouch! I'm very sorry for you. Anyway, that's one reason for half holing the flattened 7th even if you cross finger in the first octave. The other main reason is for sliding in and out of the note. It is very easy to half hole this note as you just roll the whistle between finger and thumb.


Thanks, Adrian. It's no biggie, really. I just fill my days with music and birdsong and good conversation, and I don't think about it too much. Of course, I do wish I could be still and know that God is God in a more silent way sometimes (silence has become something of an enemy), but I look forward to the great, thunderous silences of heaven.

And, yes, I can see the advantage of being able to slide in and out of it.

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Ok, nice excuse to get another Dixon whistle (British or not, I like them!). An A whistle.


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zoukie wrote:
Ok, nice excuse to get another Dixon whistle (British or not, I like them!). An A whistle.


Do get one Zoukie! I love mine. :D

Kathy :)

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