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 Post subject: Song 21 - Out of the Depths I Cry to Thee
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This one was new to me, but it caught my eye with the unusual mode. Give it a shot. It's quite haunting.

http://praisewhistlers.org/exchange/son ... depths.pdf


And here's an mp3:

http://praisewhistlers.org/exchange/son ... depths.mp3

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Phrygian mode! How cool! 8)

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As I watched this tune come out of the printer I was thinking what mode is THIS, counting on fingers Ionian, Dorian, PHRYGIAN!!!! WHAT? Then I saw Ren's post confirming the conclusion. I think this is only Phrygian hymn tune I have ever come across. Well done for finding it Connie!

Does anyone know of other hymn tunes in the Phrygian mode?


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Nice. So is this the next TPE tune? #21?

As to the mode stuff, I know pie ala mode and that's about it. But in listening to the tune, I wondered if "O Sacred Head, Now Wounded" wasn't in the Phrygian mode. Something about it sounds similar to me.
http://ezfolk.com/audio/download.php?mo ... g_id=10091

What about "Awake, Awake to Work and Love"? Maybe both these simply sound medieval to me and I'm confusing that with Phrygian mode. As I say, give me ice cream -- I can't make heads or tails of music theory.

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Good job, Adrian and Ren! You know your modes.

Of course, there's also Mixolidian, hot apple pie a la (as Keith pointed out), and Rhubarb a la. Hot apple is my favorite.

This tune, with original words, is credited to Martin Luther.

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khl wrote:
Nice. So is this the next TPE tune? #21?

As to the mode stuff, I know pie ala mode and that's about it. But in listening to the tune, I wondered if "O Sacred Head, Now Wounded" wasn't in the Phrygian mode. Something about it sounds similar to me.
http://ezfolk.com/audio/download.php?mo ... g_id=10091

What about "Awake, Awake to Work and Love"? Maybe both these simply sound medieval to me and I'm confusing that with Phrygian mode. As I say, give me ice cream -- I can't make heads or tails of music theory.


'Awake, Awake' is in the Aeolian mode, also called the natural minor. If it is played in D it finally resolves to B which is a big clue.

'O Sacred Head' is a hymn I don't know.


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Please stop posting interesting tunes in the middle of the night. It is 3.30 in the morning here and now I have to memorize this tune before I can sleep! Good choice though.


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O Sacred Head, I think, is Phrygian. Adrian, I think there's a posting of O Sacred Head in the Holy Week folder.

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Is the music sheet you have given us above of the latest hymn really how it is written in your hymnal?


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ConnieS wrote:
O Sacred Head, I think, is Phrygian. Adrian, I think there's a posting of O Sacred Head in the Holy Week folder.

Yes, it's me playing. The link above is to a newer version and with a different whistle.

Adrian, quit playing interesting music in the middle of the night and go to bed. :sunny2:

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Here's a link that has a PDF file of the music:
http://www.hymnsite.com/lyrics/umh286.sht

I'll try to look for one in a D whistle friendly key.

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khl wrote:
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O Sacred Head, I think, is Phrygian. Adrian, I think there's a posting of O Sacred Head in the Holy Week folder.

Yes, it's me playing. The link above is to a newer version and with a different whistle.

Adrian, quit playing interesting music in the middle of the night and go to bed. :sunny2:


I have just listened to it and it's true! "O Sacred Head" is in the Phrygian mode as well. Now I have to stay up and learn TWO new tunes!


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Here's a D whistle friendly one that's in my hymnal (though with a different text):
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Edited to shrink long text link.

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Thanks for the score to 'O Sacred Head'.

Do you have another version of 'Out of the depths'?


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Another version? What exactly are you looking for?

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ConnieS wrote:
Another version? What exactly are you looking for?


I was looking for another version (arrangement) of the tune. I have just found a couple.


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Oooooh! Share, please, if you have links. :D

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Thanks for the score to 'O Sacred Head'.

Do you have another version of 'Out of the depths'?

No. This isn't one I'm real familiar with. You've probably seen this score already?
http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/o/d/i/odicthee.htm

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Adrian wrote:
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Is the music sheet you have given us above of the latest hymn really how it is written in your hymnal?


Sorry. I didn't catch your question the first time through.

Yes, it's from my husband's Methodist hymnal. Interestingly, there were no measure lines. I guess it's supposed to be some kind of free meter. I just arbitrarily made it 4/4 and put in measures, but I guess you should feel free to make it flow liquidly like Gregorian chant or something.

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It's easy to find what mode a hymn is in. Just look at the shape of the keynote. Course this only works with a shapenote book.


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Is the music sheet you have given us above of the latest hymn really how it is written in your hymnal?


Sorry. I didn't catch your question the first time through.

Yes, it's from my husband's Methodist hymnal. Interestingly, there were no measure lines. I guess it's supposed to be some kind of free meter. I just arbitrarily made it 4/4 and put in measures, but I guess you should feel free to make it flow liquidly like Gregorian chant or something.


AHA! I was a bit worried about the tune as written but this explains it. Thanks.

What edition is the Methodist hymnal, so we can order one?


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khl wrote:
Nice. So is this the next TPE tune? #21?

As to the mode stuff, I know pie ala mode and that's about it. But in listening to the tune, I wondered if "O Sacred Head, Now Wounded" wasn't in the Phrygian mode. Something about it sounds similar to me.
http://ezfolk.com/audio/download.php?mo ... g_id=10091

What about "Awake, Awake to Work and Love"? Maybe both these simply sound medieval to me and I'm confusing that with Phrygian mode. As I say, give me ice cream -- I can't make heads or tails of music theory.


There is a small bit on modes in the Theory Workshop. Forget which chapter it was though hehe


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Keith, to shrink a long link to just a word or two:

{url=http://praisewhistlers.org/pwboard/viewtopic.php?t=2330}THIS THREAD{/url} becomes THIS THREAD when you replace the {} brackets with [] brackets.

Be sure and copy the total link you want to share. You choose the words that best provide a link description. Above I just linked back to this thread. I always double check my links by opening them (from "Preview") in another window or tab before submitting the post.

I've seen other people (particularly on the Chiff) mentioned a website called tinyurl.com, but I've never checked that out.


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Thanks, Judy. This will also help with other posts and links.

(Interesting how much discussion this little tune has created without anyone even recording it yet. :lol: )

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i have it recorded..just haven;t finished with it yet :)


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